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Topic: The best AV

I also rate and test antiviruses did you know. I rated pctools products, bitdefender's, kaspersky's, symantec, mcafee, eset, F-secure, panda, webroot, microsoft. I rated Kaspersky and bitdefender the best. Panda had the overall best detection and does a great job at thoroughness, but kaspersky just is more thorough like bitdefender. Bitdefender has more features too. The scoring of my malware:

Kaspersky:88 out of 89 threats blocked(zero day)
removes 70% of an infected system

Bitdefender: 85 out of 89 threats blocked (zero day)
removes 75% of an infected system with repairing of damaged components and antiphishing(great features)

Panda: 85 out 89 threats blocked(zero day)
removes 80% of an infected system.

Norton: 80 out 89 threats throughly blocked(zero day)
removes 76% of an infested system throughly with sonar, intrusion prevention (great features)


Threatfire: 84 out 89 threats throughly blocked(zero day)
removes 40% of an infested system

Webroot: 79 out of 89 threats blocked throughly(zero day)
removes 79% of an infested system

Mcafee: 73 out of 89 threats blocked (zero day)
removes 50% of an infested system.

Eset: 70 out of 89 threats blocked (zero day)
removes 80% of an infested system.(leaves traces)

Please write down your opinion below.
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Last edited by almoria (2011-11-18 04:58:20)

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Re: The best AV

I think kaspersky is the best.  thanks

Last edited by moria (2011-11-17 05:57:15)

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Re: The best AV

My opinion is that your test collection is far too small to provide results that are even near accurate.

I have done my own testing based on detection rates from VirusTotal.com logs for entries in my collection which are detected as something by some AV. Right now I have 3106 VirusTotal logs where something was detected, and I have calculated detection percentages rounded to the nearest thousandth. 5 pieces of malware in my collection are submitted to virustotal.com every hour, so it has been interesting to watch.

Detection rates based on data from 3106 entries which have reports from Virus Total:
Ikarus    98.165%
GData    96.877%
AntiVir    96.523%
BitDefender    96.491%
Comodo    96.265%
McAfee    96.137%
F-Secure    95.911%
McAfee-GW-Edition    95.364%
Avast    95.267%
Kaspersky    94.849%
Emsisoft    94.784%
Panda    94.591%
Microsoft    93.561%
Fortinet    93.529%
Symantec    93.046%
Sophos    92.756%
K7AntiVirus    92.692%
PCTools    92.402%
TrendMicro    91.887%
DrWeb    91.339%
Jiangmin    90.889%
AhnLab-V3    90.116%
AVG    89.891%
Antiy-AVL    89.697%
TrendMicro-HouseCall    89.504%
Norman    89.053%
F-Prot    88.474%
nProtect    88.345%
eTrust-Vet    85.802%
eSafe    85.512%
Commtouch    85.383%
ClamAV    85.383%
VirusBuster    85.319%
Rising    83.162%
ViRobot    75.402%
NOD32    64.778%
CAT-QuickHeal    64.488%
VBA32    52.608%
TheHacker    51.288%
Avast5    33.677%
VIPRE    16.806%
SUPERAntiSpyware    5.892%
ByteHero    3.831%
Prevx    3.316%
Authentium    2.962%
a-squared    2.318%
McAfee+Artemis    2.157%
NOD32v2    0.612%
Webwasher-Gateway    0.515%
McAfeeBeta    0.483%
FortinetBeta    0.483%
PandaBeta    0.419%
FileAdvisor    0.419%
Command    0.386%
Prevx1    0.354%
Sunbelt    0.161%
F-Prot4    0.129%
UNA    0.129%
eTrust-InoculateIT    0.097%
SAVMail    0.097%
T3    0.064%
Ewido    0.064%
NOD32Beta    0.032%

Ikarus and Gdata have been a stable #1 and #2 respectively since I wrote the code to make these calculations. The rest I've seen gain and fall now and then, ideally I'd like to reach a point where it stabilizes.

If anyone by some chance thinks im making this up or wants to check out what i'm up to, Pm me.

Oh and where do you get so much zero day stuff? Just curious smile

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Re: The best AV

Well, I have to agree it is inaccurate to have a moderate amount of zero day malware. I examine malware based on thoroughness and no leaving traces. My programs tell me which process is doing what. Say for example panda cloud antivirus free which I just did(I did the pro version earlier in the results), I launched my program similar to task manager that tells what it is doing. In panda's case, its process name is PSUNMain.exe is running and when it detected the malware it moved 80 out of 89 files eventually one at a time to the program x86 section. Also, it kept popping up 1 virus deleted or 1 virus neutrilized. I can assume that Panda cloud free blocked 80 out of 89 zero day threats. It also didn't have much info on the threats though. If you are wondering how I got all these threats, I rated all these antiviruses a month ago. In october I had 50 friends who worked hard with me at creating new malware. I created 2 files. I made a Rootkit and a generic trojan that activates the rootkit. My other friends sent me malware through email and I gathered them up. They said that they were positive that they made malware because they told me they tried it out on other spare old computers(a year old). I tried all of them too on the old computers. I can give you part of my collection in an attachment soon if I can get a karma, cause I can't seem to upload or download files from this without a karma. If you can give a karma, I can upload it because I want to exchange malware and not lose it.(In my opinion panda is probably good)Besides, I use really good trojan sets and I 'll give part of my collection below.The collection below is full of viruses and not a lot of memory.

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  • Registered: 2011-11-17
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Re: The best AV

I'm going to send my full set of threats as soon as I can I'm having trouble uploading. It's 30,000 kb zip. I'm going to have to split it. Gonna take sometime. I've got PUP, trojans, hacking tools, backdoors, viruses, worms, rootkits, adware, rogues, and dialers or jokes. Besides who gave me the karma? I've got lots of zero day stuff as well.

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Re: The best AV

I did! I want to see what you've got! haha. smile And thanks for what youve uploaded so far smile

Last edited by ih8censorship (2011-11-18 07:54:12)

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Re: The best AV

I've decided with my friends to krank up the malware samples and amounts. But some are not zero day threats. But about most of them are. Now the level is 580 threats exactly and I still can't load them up onto the forum. but results are:

Bitdefender Plus: 578 out of 580 blocked thoroughly smile smile      cool (behavior detection)
removes 89 out of 100 thoroughly, accurately smile

Panda Pro: 573 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly smile       cool (behavior detection)
removes 94 removed thoroughly, disinfecting, and neutralizes threats in a second   smile  smile      cool

Kaspersky: 569 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly smile
removes 99 out of 100 all leaving lots of traces smile              cool  (behavior detection  and virus signature)

Threatfire: 575 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly smile (behavior detection)
removes 2 out of 100 threats. sad  sad  sad

F-secure: 550 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral (behavior detection)
removes 50 out of 100 threats thoroughly neutral

Norton: 567 threats of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral  (behavior detection and virus signature)
removes 95 out of 100 threats very thoroughly smile  smile     cool

Webroot: 555 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral (virus signature)
removes 60 out of 100 threats with traces neutral

Mcafee: 540 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly sad  (virus signature)
removes 60 out of 100 threats with high traces neutral / sad

Microsoft Security Essentials: 564 threats out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly (virus signature)
removes 85 threats removed thoroughly smile / neutral

Eset: 567 threats out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral (behavior)
removes 86 threats out of 100 threats thoroughly neutral

Spyware Doctor with antivirus: 570 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral (behavior detection)
removes 87 threats out of 100 threats thoroughly with the rest with minor traces smile

Avast Pro: 565 threats out of 570 threats blocked thoroughly smile (behavior detection)
removes 50 out of 100 threats thoroughly neutral

Trend micro titanium: 575 threats out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly and fast smile
removes 87 out of 100 threats smile / neutral

Ad-aware - 565 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly neutral
removes 84 out of 100 threats removed neutral

G Data - 578 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly  smile
removes 85 out of 100 threats removed smile / neutral

Clamwin - 545 out of 580 threats blocked thoroughly smile
removes 83.5 out of 100 threats removed neutral


I'm going to update this list.What's your opinion.

Last edited by almoria (2011-12-02 05:22:58)

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Re: The best AV

i like mcafee virus scan a & immunet

Perfect combination

  • Registered: 2011-11-18
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Re: The best AV

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Re: The best AV

Mcafee is good at protecting I'm sure, but choose something that is good at both.

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Re: The best AV

In my opinion all antiviruses nowadays are efficient if they are all up-to-date.I have used many antiviruses  in the past like Norton,NOD32,Avira or AVG.I can't say one is better than another,but as i said,all are better only if they are up-to-date.

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Re: The best AV

i like Eset nod32